ROSWELL: WAS THE DEBRIS FIRST IDENTIFIED BACK AT BASE

Who initially identified that the Roswell debris, was possibly from a meteorological device?

The first published news of same, seems to have originated on 8 July, courtesy of a news bulletin, transmitted by the Association Press (AP) from Roswell and according to one newspaper's take:

'Record-Searchlight' (Redding, California)

Tuesday July 8, 1947

ROSWELL, N. M., July 8.- (AP)-The army air force here today announced a "flying disk" had been found on a ranch near Roswell and is in army possession.

Warren Haught, public Information officer of the Roswell army air field, announced the find had been made "sometime last week," and had been turned over to the air field through co-operation of the sheriff's office.

"It was inspected at the Roswell army air field and subsequently loaned" by Maj. Jesse A. Marcel of the 509th bomb group Intelligence office at Roswell, "to higher headquarters."

Brig. Gen. Roger Ramey, Eighth air force commander, described the object as of "flimsy construction, almost like a box kite." It was badly battered and Ramey did not indicate its size.

Asked what the material seemed to be. A. A. F. officials here said Ramey described it as "apparently some sort of tin foil."

Ramey also said that, so far as could be determined, no one had seen the object in the air.

Haught's statement:

"The many rumors regarding the flying disk became a reality yesterday..."

(End of extract)


This would appear to correlate with our now documented AP timeline:

7:03  Another First Lead story, dated Washington.

The Washington story gave the first real hint that all wasn't solved. There were possibilities, it stated, that the object was only a meteorological device.

(End)


Presumably because of the late hour, I can only locate one other newspaper which, on 8 July, published this specific bulletin:

'Bellingham Herald' (Bellingham, Washington), 'FINAL' edition.


Our AP newswire, features the significant update:

"Brig. Gen. Roger Ramey, Eighth air force commander, described the object as of "flimsy construction, almost like a box kite." It was badly battered and Ramey did not Indicate its size.

Asked what the material seemed to be. A. A. F. officials here said Ramey described it as "apparently some sort of tin foil"."

Seems confusing; if the AP newsfeed is from Roswell and "A. A. F. officials here...".

Does this imply that Ramey described it as "apparently some sort of tin foil" to A. A. F. officials at Roswell?

Perhaps the other way around?

A telling clue, might be evidenced in the following AP news bulletin, from Washington and also dated 8 July, although not published until next morning:

Greensboro Daily News (Greensboro, North Carolina) · Wednesday July 9, 1947

WASHINGTON, July 8. -(AP)-A "flying disk" was reported found today in New Mexico but Army Air Forces headquarters here isn't sure the mystery plaguing the nation has been solved after all.

The army said it might turn out to be only a weather instrument. Anyhow Brig. Gen. Roger Ramey reported that the battered, flimsy object is being sent by air to Wright Field, Ohio, the AAF research center, for examination.

The AAF at Roswell, N. M.. announced the discovery had been made on a ranch near Roswell, climaxing weeks of reports over the country of strange disks seen skimming at high speed.

AAF headquarters, after telephonic consultation with officers at Roswell who have seen the material, said this:

"There is a strong opinion by officers who saw the object, after consulting with weather experts, that it may be a meteorological device.

"There is some indication that the object might have been attached to a balloon, which squares with the description of meteorological equipment we have in use."

The material had been described as of flimsy construction, about 25 feet in diameter, covered with a tinfoil-like substance and built on a framework of light wood.

Warrant Officer Irving Newton, a forecaster at Ft. Worth, Tex., Army Airfield weather station said the object was a rawind (radar-wind) target used to determine the direction and velocity of winds at high altitudes.

Newton said there were some 80 weather stations in the United States using this type of balloon and that it could have come from any one of them.

Ramey, commander of the Eighth Air Force with headquarters at Ft. Worth, received the object from the Roswell Army Air Base".

(End of full copy)


Transmitted on the evening of 8 July, this now features Irving Newton and confirms that the Roswell debris had accordingly been tagged as a radar target.

Moreso, our, "flimsy construction, almost like a box kite", "some sort of tin foil" and 'badly battered' artefact, is further described:

"There is a strong opinion by officers who saw the object, after consulting with weather experts, that it may be a meteorological device.

"There is some indication that the object might have been attached to a balloon, which squares with the description of meteorological equipment we have in use."

All of which, however, must surely in fact relate to Roswell AAF base, e.g., "officers who saw the object..."?


Apparently, Col. Blanchard was scheduled to depart the base on 8 July and if so, might not have been present to take a phone call.

Then we have, from AP, Fort Worth, also dated 8 July, although not published until next day:

Daily Oklahoman

Wednesday July 9, 1947

FORT WORTH, Texas, Jul 8 - (AP) - 

A "flying disc" which was reported found Tuesday...

(...)

"The weather device was flown to Fort Worth army, air field by an B-29 from Roswell army air field at 10 a. m, Tuesday at the command of General Ramey.

(...)

After Col. William H. Blanchard, 509th commanding officer, reported4⅘ the incident to General Ramey, he was ordered to dispatch the object to Fort Worth army air field immediately. About that time, word broke from Romwell that a flying disk finally had been found.

_Washington Casts Doubts_

The AAF at Roswell first announced the discovery with a straight face, climaxing weeks of reports over the country of strange circular discs seen skimming at high speed

But AAF headquarters in Washington after telephone consultation with officers in Roswell who have seen the material, said this:

"There is a strong opinion by officers who saw the object, after consulting with weather experts, that it be a meteorological device."

The material land been described as of flimsy construction, about 25 feet In diameter, covered with a tinfoil-like substance and built out framework of light wood. It was badly battered.

Nothing in the apparent construction "indicated any capacity for speed," and there was no evidence of a power plant, the AAF said.

"Construction seemed too flimsy to have enabled it to carry a man, it was added".

(End of extract)


A Universal Press (UP) report, from Chicago, dated 8 July and published next day by a number of newspapers, seems consistent:

"Ramey had informed his Washington superiors that the object was "of very flimsy construction...', etc 

Consequently, we would seem to have Ramey acting as a go-between?


This aside, the revelation herein, if factually accurate, would be that in answer to the question, 'why did nobody at Roswell AAF base, recognise it was probably a 'weather balloon'...

They did and for whatever reason(s), the material described, is seemingly one and the same, which ended up being labelled in our infamous press release as a 'flying disk'.

Whilst not remotely any insinuations, supporting the somewhat fragile artefact had travelled from a distant planet...

Just... many years later, maybe made it sound like that ?

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